Smart Home Energy Monitor with 16 50A Circuit Level Sensors | Vue - Real Time Electricity Monitor/Meter | Solar/Net Metering
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- RG2020-10-21Great way to monitor electric usage
This is an excellent product and it comes with great support and customer service also. I like it so much I bought a second one for Mom's home - which is where things went wrong (but appears that this may be due to someone buying a Gen2 and doing a return putting their old original first-generation Vue in the new box and then Amazon sending it to me as 'new'.) For the real product that I did get earlier (direct from Emporia) - Packaging: Wow - it's beautiful. Documentation: Clear and concise. Android app: Very good (I'd like to see some tweaks here and there, but it works and gives you access to all the usage details.) Installation: I respect electricity and don't like getting shocked! But, it really wasn't difficult to safely install on live panel. I took my time and was careful. Support: Accessible and responsive - both phone and email. Price: Good! What more could you ask for? I've always wanted to know how much electricity things were using and have a Kill-A-Watt which works well for things that plug in. But, what about things like lights on switches, heat pumps, cooktops, etc? This device will let you see your total usage on everything, and up to 16 different individual circuits. And since the app shows usage on the whole home and any individual circuit in real time 1-second intervals, it's quite easy to see electric usage even on circuits that power multiple things. For example, a typical breaker may shut off power to all the lights in one or more rooms. Either have all the lights off and turn just the one you want to check on - or, if other lights on circuit are also on, just use the difference between the usage on that circuit from the amount with and without the light you want to measure being 'on'. Same technique can be used for receptacle circuits. With the Emporia Vue I was able to see: my modern washing machine draws about 6 watts constantly when it's 'Off'. Oral-B toothbrush chargers draw more than 5 watts constantly if plugged in, with or without a toothbrush on the charger - there's basically no difference if you charge a toothbrush or not. My central A/C draws 10 watts less when my smart Sensi thermostat has it 'off' than when it's in 'cool' but not running. These are all little things, but they add up on things that run 24x7. Reduce 24x7 demand by 100 watts, and that's 72kWh per month. In Hawaii at about 25 cents per kWh, that's $18/month! The Vue will also give you insight into the big things as well - the usage of electric water heater, clothes dryer, cooktop, oven, etc. I'm glad I bought this, and I'm also glad to see some delays in availability - demand for the product is picking up as more people realize what this can do for their energy awareness/conservation, and hopefully allows Emporia to be successful and continue to offer this at a reasonable price! (It does require Internet/cloud to work and continue working.)
- Frederick2024-01-16Effective and User-Friendly Electricity Monitor – Nearly Perfect!
I recently purchased this electricity monitor, and I'm genuinely impressed with its performance. Installation was a breeze, which was a pleasant surprise. The user manual provided clear instructions, and I had it up and running in 1 hour. The real-time electricity usage display is a standout feature. It's fascinating to see how different appliances and activities impact my electricity consumption. This monitor has been instrumental in identifying unnecessary energy wastage in my home. By pinpointing these areas, I've been able to make more energy-efficient choices, which I anticipate will reflect positively on my electricity bills. One of the most helpful aspects is the ability to track usage over time. The monitor provides a clear, comprehensive view of my electricity consumption patterns. This data is invaluable for making informed decisions about energy use and has helped me understand my household's energy habits better. However, there's one feature that could take this monitor from great to perfect: an API for web integration. If I could access my electricity usage data through a website, it would enhance the usability and accessibility of the information. This addition would allow for more detailed analysis and the possibility of integrating the data with other smart home systems. In conclusion, I'm very satisfied with this electricity monitor. It's easy to install, simple to use, and provides crucial insights into electricity usage. I highly recommend it to anyone looking to gain a better understanding of their energy consumption and looking to make more environmentally friendly and cost-effective choices. A web API in future models would make it an unbeatable product in its category.
- vardelda2023-03-05Great hardware but sad UI
If you're looking for the best monitor at the lowest price, this is definitely it. If you're looking for just the best monitor, this might be it -- but that depends on your level of technical savvy. The Sense is simpler to install, has MUCH better UI and reports, but substantially less accurate AND it costs 3-4x more. The Vue hardware is really nice and gives you direct, circuit by circuit, monitoring -- which is great. BUT their app is just...sad. It is simplistic, doesn't consider complex situations (like multiple panels) at all, and offers extremely limited smarts when it comes to charting, analysis, and data management. Notice I didn't say "bad". It works. You can use it. If you have a simple setup and you're not too particular about logical data presentation or meaningful analysis, you may not even notice how little thought (much less expertise!) went into this app. But if you want to go any deeper than that, good luck. You either need to pay more for Sense, or put on your techie hat and dive into one of the online tutorials to flash your device or custom code routines to regularly pull the data and then build your own analyses. So, it gets 4 stars. It really does work and the hardware, in particular, works well. I like it a lot. And if you've got a simple use profile, you'll like it a lot. But if you have a complex situation or want more than very basic stats -- be prepared for a good deal of additional effort on your part. (Sadly the company doesn't appear to recognize how poor their app is so unlikely any help is coming from that sector.)
- Mike C...2024-04-20This is a must have device! So incredibly informative.
I have a small 1100sqft house. The average electric bill is probably $280/mo.. For years the utility company has been tipping me off about how my electricity use is higher than similar sized houses in the neighborhood.. I mostly ignored it until recently when I decided that I need to get to the bottom of the high usage.. That’s when I came across this energy monitor. I did a bunch of research online about it and became very convinced this would be a necessary tool to help me resolve these high utility bills. The pictures above speak for themselves. What you’re seeing there is only 5days of usage.. You can go through your utility bill and determine what your KWh rate is and input that into the app. That then allows you to switch the unit of measure from watts to currency (amongst many others). So clearly my old as dirt electric water heater needs to be swapped out, and I have to have a talk with my son about all the stuff he has running in his room.. 🫠 I posted a few other pictures to try to demonstrate how gradient the readings are. You can see in the furnace(forced hot air) graph how the burner kicks on and ignites the burner.. It stays on and heats up for a small period of time until the heat gets high enough to kick on the circulating blower which is the jump in usage and it levels out while it runs. It’s so impressive!! To take it a step further I included a screenshot of one of the emporia plugs I have my cpap machine plugged into.. The spikes in the graph are where I purposely was breathing harder than normal.. It’s literally sensitive enough to detect even the slightest change in power demand.. Down to a hundredth of a watt!! That’s insane! The installation for me was very straightforward, but I work in the power generation field and am very comfortable and mindful when working around electricity. There are plenty of videos online to walk you through this. Shut the power off to your panel and be mindful that the conductors from the street are always live even with your main breaker off.. My panel is small so it wasn’t the easiest to fit everything in there, but it did fit. I found setting up the app was very easy and straightforward.. It’s basically self explanatory. There is no fee to use any of this, and the value is basically a quick compounding return on investment if you take steps to mitigate high usage devices. I can literally say- you can’t afford to NOT get this. I’m very happy with it.
- Julia Gaines2023-12-17Easy to install and works great
My solar client who has been really great to work with reached out to me about consumption monitoring to go with their system. I looked over the work orders from the job and saw that Enphase CT’s which are somewhat bulky didn’t fit in their panel. I had seen this solution before and I decided to give it a try. You will need a drill, your drill bits, wire strippers, and electrical tape. Wear work gloves with rubber coated palms, eye protection and consider having someone else with you while you work, even if they don’t do much. If you feel uncomfortable about working on a live electrical system I would really recommend hiring someone to do this work who is licensed and insured. If you are not going that route and you feel that you can work responsibly it is a pretty easy job. The app tells you everything to do and it’s easy to follow along. I did not apply common sense at first, which would tell us to select circuits from the top of the panel going down on each side and try to keep the sides of the device correspondent to the order of breakers in the panel. I had to pull everything off, tape it up, and recommission it because I couldn’t close the panel cover. As a gift for my homeowners I like that it has purpose, longevity, and isn’t consumable. It’s interesting to talk about which can lead them to someone who needs a referral and wants to get their bill lower. Compared to other solutions like Sense and onboard CT’s from SolarEdge and Enphase this is way better. Since you pick the circuits you get high quality data unlike the Sense. CT’s are cool but it doesn’t tell you why your consumption is up, just that your consumption is up. This would be a great tool to get ahead of true up bills, stay on top of time-of-use, and cut consumption for anyone looking to save on bills.
- Jacob Klein2021-11-23Amazing Product, Great Learning Tool
I purchased this in March of 2021, and have enjoyed this product very much since then. The real time data logging is great, and can really help find areas that use excess electricity. Was pretty easy to setup in the breaker panel. Cut main breaker, installed unit, installed clamps, and then closed breaker box and powered up. One of my sensors was defective, and the company sent me one right away, free of charge. Everything worked perfectly after that. I initially did not have an EV, though in August I got one and this thing has been amazing at tracking energy usage for the EV. Was very easy in the software to rearrange a clamp and set it up for the EV charger. I ended up removing one that was a pretty unused circuit anyways. I am also a big fan of being able to export the data into CVV format. I have built a spreadsheet that breaks down monthly usage and % by circuit. I have also plotted an hour graph which shows me when my peak times of electricity use are during the day. Not necessary, but it helps me learn about my usage. A couple points of improvement I would wish for the future: 1) the export to CVV is completely manual. Not a big deal, but when I want to update my spreadsheets, it takes a few minutes to export and append into the spreadsheet. 2) I wish they had more support in terms of smart homes. Would be nice if there was an API that could be read from. It seems the app is the only way to read from the device in a live fashion. Would be nice if it featured a self-hosted server with all of the live data accessible from other sources. Overall a great product for an amazing price. App is pretty solid, device seems to work great, and quality customer service. Would definitely recommend to anyone looking to understand or learn from their energy usage habits!
- Mosfet502024-01-08Easy to set up and works well
I'm using this in concord with my Emporia EVSE to limit charging to times when there's excess PV. Hooking up the unit went well thanks to the excellent support from Emporia. Mine was not an easy installation. I have two PV systems, a critical load sub panel and an EV. The Emporia breaker sensors can not monitor bidirectional inverters that feed the grid with excess after critical loads are met but there's a work around (Emporia is working on firmware to enable bidirection sensing of their CT breaker sensors). What I do is monitor all my critical breakers but don't monitor the inverter in/out 240 source. This way it shows up as "balance" which are all the unmonitored breakers usage, this does show up on their software and is easy to read. There is no effect to the excess energy sent to the grid, that's monitored by the main breaker monitor which is bidirectional. My Emporia EVSE works fine as all it needs to know is excess energy. I have now monitor all my critical loads (I got the 16 breaker Emporia) and I can clearly see how all my energy is being utilized. One note the ends of the CT's are fragile and two were intermittent after pushing through a 6" length of snug conduit so be careful installing them. (Emporia sent me out three new CT's at no cost). Highly recommended!
- Jarad Regan2024-05-14Great Product, Excellent Support
I had an issue with getting the meter to properly configure net metering with solar. I was able to chat with support through the app and they actually resolved the issue. It's unusual to be able to get in touch with an actual person anymore, and even more unusual for that person to be able to fix something rather than just read from a script. The actual energy meter is great. The monitor matches what my utility says is being drawn, so it is accurate, and being able to see exactly what is being consumed and produced is definitely useful for improving our efficiency.
- Nick Nack2023-02-14Not perfect but pretty good
I’ve been wanting to be able to monitor my home’s electrical usage for some time now, not just from a standpoint of trying to minimize our electricity bills but also from a standpoint of situational awareness and equipment health status. I’d like to know if my well pump is running more than usual, if my oven has been left on, or if my heat pump is having a harder time starting up than it usually does. And, with a little effort, Emporia lets me set notifications for each of those things. Emporia tells me that the so-called “50A” sensors actually saturate at 75A, and will not be damaged if you go beyond that—they’ll simply fail to report any additional current. It makes sense that they’ve allowed some margin above the nominal value—a 50A breaker might easily let you draw 100A for several seconds without tripping. But that’s good to know if, like me, you have a 60A emergency heat circuit in your air handler that you want to monitor. There are alternatives out there. The most widely known one is probably Sense (also sold as Wiser Energy), which tries to infer based on only sensing your main lines what loads are running. That’s a neat idea, and certainly easier to install because of so many fewer sensors, but I can’t say I really trust their computer to be able to tell the difference between all the various loads in a house just from looking at the combined draw. Plus, Sense costs twice as much as Emporia—and I needed two monitors because I have two completely separate panels in my house (neither is a subpanel of the other), so I was doubly sensitive to price. Another interesting option, though, is called IotaWatt. Its price tag is comparable to Sense, but like the Emporia it relies on individual circuit sensors rather than guesswork (although you only get 14 sensors, including the mains). And the IotaWatt is open source, so you don’t have to rely on a company like Emporia to keep supporting the software ecosystem in the future (on the flip side, though, you’re almost certainly looking at having to fiddle more with the software, and I’d expect it to be a lot harder to contrive a way of looking at the data when you’re not at home on your local network). Another interesting option, although it won’t work for most people, is the Emporia “Vue Utility Connect wireless energy monitor.” If you happen to be in one of the relatively few markets using the appropriate Zigbee-connected smart meter, that cheap little device can tell you your total power draw by simply asking your existing smart meter what’s happening. Not as informative as being able to monitor 16 individual circuits, but not bad for the price tag and ease of installation. I also like how the Emporia ecosystem includes smart plugs to monitor individual devices. I bought some of those also because I wanted to be able to schedule the on and off time of certain equipment, and being able to monitor the power draw of that specific service is handy. You can nest the device to put it under the appropriate circuit in the app. If you’re getting the 16-branch-sensor version like I did, there’s no getting around the fact that it’s going to turn the inside of your breaker box into a rat’s nest. I don’t care for that, but I don’t have any better ideas. The Sense approach of only monitoring the mains is the only way around it that I can see, and as I said I don’t really trust that. The app feels a little dodgy. Sometimes the branch circuits don’t show up unless I fiddle with the time scale. Changing the name of a circuit doesn’t update until you leave the menu, so it can get confusing if you’re renaming several at once. And I ended up remaking all of them because when I finished typing them all in the first time it suggested I take a picture of the inside of my breaker box—and navigating from the Emporia app to my camera seemed to abort the entire setup process. It also failed to update firmware and said it would do it overnight instead. And even after it’s all set up, the high resolution data by the second—which is the only glimpse into how hard a motor is starting—disappears quickly (3 hours), in many cases preventing you from comparing to previous runs of that equipment if you haven’t explicitly gone to the effort of saving it. I would’ve appreciated emporia saving the peak draw from each circuit over the last day, week, and month. So on the whole I’m not feeling like it’s a very polished experience. The one second sample rate frequently misses startup spikes. If you’re really only concerned with total energy usage, that might not matter, but if you have an interest in how hard a motor is starting then that’s a bit disappointing. The one-second data is also only saved for three hours, which isn’t a lot of time. I wish they would save the peak consumption per hour and per day, ideally from a quick enough sample to catch startup peaks reliably. I’d like to be able to set a notification for power draw between two bounds rather than just above or below a threshold. If I want to recognize a hard start of my air handler but not confuse emergency heat with a hard start, I need that kind of functionality. If I’m understanding things correctly, setting the time scale to minute or hour or day shows me how much energy has been consumed so far during this minute or hour or day (etc) even if it just started seconds ago. I don’t see a way to view my usage over the last rolling 24 hours, or 60 minutes, or 60 seconds, which makes it hard to understand how much energy I’m using right now as opposed to one unit of time ago. About a week after installing the sensors, I accidentally hit the breaker to my heat pump while turning on another breaker that was new and quite stiff. The next morning, I got a bunch of notifications that I had configured to alert me when the system was in emergency (resistive) heat mode. I found my error with a quick investigation and remedied it before a lot of energy was wasted. In all, it could be better but I like it.
- Matt L.2024-02-07Don't know if I love this.... I DO!
Purchased this to monitor our Barn Sub-Panel, a recent addition to the house. It's a 1500sq/ft building with two 18k BTU mini spits, 800w of LED overhead lights, 2 post lift, full wood shop, welding outlet, etc. There's eight 240v circuits and eight120v circuits in the subpanel this was installed in. Install was straight forward, but if you're not comfortable working in an electrical panel, I'd recommend letting a licensed electrician do it. I wired the subpanel and the barn, but am not a licensed electrician, it's all inspected Rough and Final, but different jurisdictions have different rules about is legally allowed to do electrical work on their home. On to the review - Well, it definitely muddies up a clean electrical panel with the sensors and their wires but it's not too bad. If your panel has a TON of excess wire and is very full, this is going to be a tough installation. Once installed the set up is pretty straight forward and the instructions to do so work well. For each 240v circuit (two 120v legs) only one sensor is needed and the software in the app can be set to multiply the value by two; this in principal works great on things like Mini splits or a dust collector for example. However some 240v devices will have 120v items that will run between one of the 120v legs and a neutral wire, so if it's monitoring the leg being used for that 120v item, it's going to double it's usage and if it's monitoring the other leg, it won't measure the usage. This isn't that big of a problem, the 120v items on these types of circuits are hour meters or small control boards, etc. but it can create some inconsistencies. The view of everything is eye opening and that's why I'm not sure I love it.... but I do. It's very helpful to know what things cost. For example the network (security cameras, network switch, wireless AP's and related) are operating at able 2kw/hr's a day (a little less than a normal 80w systained draw. For me, it's $0.32/day to run the Barn's network. HVAC usage as well being able to see it is helpful to know if it's worth the cost to keep the barn warm or just warm it up when I use it. Overall, I'd definitely recommend this, it's price point over other brands is a bonus. Since purchasing this, we've also added four of the US Smart plugs from emporia that do the energy monitoring and are just as happy with them. We'll likely be adding two additional 16 circuit monitors to our two existing 200a service entrance panels.